Am I making too big a deal about this?
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Am I making too big a deal about this?
https://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sacrificialgoddess?ref=profile
Don't know how many of you can see that, but if you can't, friend me on facebook, tell me who you are over here, and I'll accept the friendship and you can have a look.
Here is the story: A couple of days ago, I saw that Chiyo had taken a "What is your Bible IQ" quiz on facebook and thought "why not?" and took it myself. That was my first mistake. My second was mentioning how easy the quiz was and how it wasn't even my book. So one of the Christians who I thought I considered a friend, but clearly doesn't know me very well, is now commenting there about how she hopes one day I'll be a Christian. Now, those of you who know my story know the issues I have with Christianity and how when I was one, the whole thing was a big, dramatic trauma. So, I started out trying to be nice about the whole thing, but it escalated as she left me with no other alternative (in my mind) than to think that she was hoping I would lose my religion, because naturally if that happened I would choose hers.
So I am asking, my friends, am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
Don't know how many of you can see that, but if you can't, friend me on facebook, tell me who you are over here, and I'll accept the friendship and you can have a look.
Here is the story: A couple of days ago, I saw that Chiyo had taken a "What is your Bible IQ" quiz on facebook and thought "why not?" and took it myself. That was my first mistake. My second was mentioning how easy the quiz was and how it wasn't even my book. So one of the Christians who I thought I considered a friend, but clearly doesn't know me very well, is now commenting there about how she hopes one day I'll be a Christian. Now, those of you who know my story know the issues I have with Christianity and how when I was one, the whole thing was a big, dramatic trauma. So, I started out trying to be nice about the whole thing, but it escalated as she left me with no other alternative (in my mind) than to think that she was hoping I would lose my religion, because naturally if that happened I would choose hers.
So I am asking, my friends, am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Nope. They try it with you because they really don't give you the respect of understanding that your faith is as important to you as theirs is to them. The implication is that you are an idiot, and if you ever pulled your head out of your a$$ you'd run to JC and his traveling Psalm singers.
You would certainly never suggest that they were simply blind ignorant sheep trading their sovereign will for a pat on the head and regular shearing. That would not just be rude, but unforgivably arrogant.
You would certainly never suggest that they were simply blind ignorant sheep trading their sovereign will for a pat on the head and regular shearing. That would not just be rude, but unforgivably arrogant.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
I think your response was quite appropriate, SG! I'm very curious to see what she'll say now. The courteous thing would be to shut up! LOL If she had just said it once, then you could just chalk it up to her joking....but twice? I don't think so!
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
sacrificialgoddess wrote:https://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sacrificialgoddess?ref=profile
Don't know how many of you can see that, but if you can't, friend me on facebook, tell me who you are over here, and I'll accept the friendship and you can have a look.
Here is the story: A couple of days ago, I saw that Chiyo had taken a "What is your Bible IQ" quiz on facebook and thought "why not?" and took it myself. That was my first mistake. My second was mentioning how easy the quiz was and how it wasn't even my book. So one of the Christians who I thought I considered a friend, but clearly doesn't know me very well, is now commenting there about how she hopes one day I'll be a Christian. Now, those of you who know my story know the issues I have with Christianity and how when I was one, the whole thing was a big, dramatic trauma. So, I started out trying to be nice about the whole thing, but it escalated as she left me with no other alternative (in my mind) than to think that she was hoping I would lose my religion, because naturally if that happened I would choose hers.
So I am asking, my friends, am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
I have never been comfortable with the idea that one NEED to join the religion of another and I have always interpreted any attempts (regardless of how 'harmless', 'unintentional', etc) at conversion to be nothing less than a personal attack and highly insulting. As the topic is specifically Christianity, it is my understanding of the "Great Commission" to convert everyone possible to that religion, and no matter how well someone means, when one is comfortable in their religion, any attempts at conversion are commentary on part of the evangelist towards the convertee, that they are incapable of making their own decisions regarding their choice of religion, and someone needs to compel them to join the "right" religion.
I might be "too sensitive" on the issue as well SG...
My two cents anyway,
Gorm.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
I think some people are bozos.
If their god wants the other person, their god can and will bloody well cut his or her own deal. If their god doesn't make the effort, s/he doesn't want them. Period. The only person who would ask another person to give up a god who is actively communicating, is a person who has never had an active god in his or her life and has no idea what that is like.
If their god wants the other person, their god can and will bloody well cut his or her own deal. If their god doesn't make the effort, s/he doesn't want them. Period. The only person who would ask another person to give up a god who is actively communicating, is a person who has never had an active god in his or her life and has no idea what that is like.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
SG you are so cute!
I stopped over on Facebook, and my inbox was full with BNet/BCorner discussions. I noticed my husband threw into the mix! (He's soooo craaaazy)! I do understand all the hoopla though.
The Facebook & the BNet experience has been tireing for me. I have no patience when it comes to bickering, and all out war waging. A whole lot of hollerin about nuffin! This god/judgement thing pops up EVERYWHERE! Can't get rid of the problem children? Do what I do, honey. IGNORE the IGNORANCE!
Press delete, its a button on your keyboard...and poof they're gone!
My dear SG, YOU are NOT making a mountain out of a mole hill, but your self respect, and your self esteem has been stomped on (again), so do the next best thing, offer up positive energy for yourself, take today in stride, and enjoy what it has to offer! Blessings!
I stopped over on Facebook, and my inbox was full with BNet/BCorner discussions. I noticed my husband threw into the mix! (He's soooo craaaazy)! I do understand all the hoopla though.
The Facebook & the BNet experience has been tireing for me. I have no patience when it comes to bickering, and all out war waging. A whole lot of hollerin about nuffin! This god/judgement thing pops up EVERYWHERE! Can't get rid of the problem children? Do what I do, honey. IGNORE the IGNORANCE!
Press delete, its a button on your keyboard...and poof they're gone!
My dear SG, YOU are NOT making a mountain out of a mole hill, but your self respect, and your self esteem has been stomped on (again), so do the next best thing, offer up positive energy for yourself, take today in stride, and enjoy what it has to offer! Blessings!
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Nope... A real friend does not care what your religion/faith or lack thereof is.
I would delete, and have deleted, anyone who makes religion an issue. Religion/spirituality is supposed to make you feel at peace, not pressured.
A friend doesn't pressure.
If she just mentioned it and let it drop after you said "no", it'd be different. If she just will NOT let it go... Kick her ass to the curb. Life's full of enough shit without getting it from "friends".
I sent a request... Tina N... to be added.
I would delete, and have deleted, anyone who makes religion an issue. Religion/spirituality is supposed to make you feel at peace, not pressured.
A friend doesn't pressure.
If she just mentioned it and let it drop after you said "no", it'd be different. If she just will NOT let it go... Kick her ass to the curb. Life's full of enough shit without getting it from "friends".
I sent a request... Tina N... to be added.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
I too, do not think you are making too much of it. If aimed at me I would have been very insulted. As Tina said Life's full of enough sh.. don't need it from friends too.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
I don't think you are making too much out of it. Ya want me to pick a fight?
Honestly, I seem to be almost done with facebook. It's not that I've had bad experiences or anything, it's just that I have family and what not that did searches on my name and it came up. Now they want to talk and know all sorts of stuff about my life, and they just aren't on a need to know basis. My aunts, uncles, and cousins, etc, don't need to here about the stuff I talk about here. At the best it makes them all interested in asking me questions at family functions, and at worst, it gets them all worked up and negative towards me.
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Honestly, I seem to be almost done with facebook. It's not that I've had bad experiences or anything, it's just that I have family and what not that did searches on my name and it came up. Now they want to talk and know all sorts of stuff about my life, and they just aren't on a need to know basis. My aunts, uncles, and cousins, etc, don't need to here about the stuff I talk about here. At the best it makes them all interested in asking me questions at family functions, and at worst, it gets them all worked up and negative towards me.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Well crap, that sucks ALL.Then you'll have to come here more and there less.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Agreeing here, SG. It is a big deal. It's your life, your spiritual walk and your practice. It isn't anyone else's. In this situation I'd delet them. Period.
No one has the right to try to brow beat you or try to convert you. That is comepletly rude and out of bounds. When it happens to me I think every one knows I have a tendency to blow a gasket. Hate that. It takes time to find the gasket or go get a new one. Meanwhile my brain is falling out. Not a good idea.
I know what you've said about your difficulties with Christianity. You don't need to have anyone picking at the scars. Cap is right. You need to come here more and there less.
No one has the right to try to brow beat you or try to convert you. That is comepletly rude and out of bounds. When it happens to me I think every one knows I have a tendency to blow a gasket. Hate that. It takes time to find the gasket or go get a new one. Meanwhile my brain is falling out. Not a good idea.
I know what you've said about your difficulties with Christianity. You don't need to have anyone picking at the scars. Cap is right. You need to come here more and there less.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
sacrificialgoddess wrote:So I am asking, my friends, am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
Even if it was a molehill, those little suckers can trip you up something fierce if you're not watching where you step.
People have a nasty habit of not considering their words from outside their own perspective. Your friends crime (to my mind) is not in what she said (her intentions, I suspect, are nothing but good) but in failing to to see how her intentions (however well meant) could be seen as offensive and hurtful.
In any case, you've made your feelings clear. If she persists she's showing a lack of respect which has no place in "friendship."
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Yikes! Well that was a fun read. Seeing as she didn't respond I guess you left her flabbergasted, angry or embarrased. I found what she said rude and out of place, and you phrased your comeback very well.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
I didn't want to hurt her unnecessarily. I really didn't see the point in the conversation in the first place, since she has never asked me what I really believe.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:
Honestly, I seem to be almost done with facebook. It's not that I've had bad experiences or anything, it's just that I have family and what not that did searches on my name and it came up. Now they want to talk and know all sorts of stuff about my life, and they just aren't on a need to know basis. My aunts, uncles, and cousins, etc, don't need to here about the stuff I talk about here. At the best it makes them all interested in asking me questions at family functions, and at worst, it gets them all worked up and negative towards me.
all
I have the same problem, All. I have to be VERY careful what I say on Facebook, since my fundamental/evangelical family members have me on their lists! I stay out of Facebook as much as possible, and only post "vanilla" stuff, if you know what I mean. (I took the Bible quiz myself and was QUITE relieved that I made "scholar" status!! LOL)
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Beribee wrote:allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:
Honestly, I seem to be almost done with facebook. It's not that I've had bad experiences or anything, it's just that I have family and what not that did searches on my name and it came up. Now they want to talk and know all sorts of stuff about my life, and they just aren't on a need to know basis. My aunts, uncles, and cousins, etc, don't need to here about the stuff I talk about here. At the best it makes them all interested in asking me questions at family functions, and at worst, it gets them all worked up and negative towards me.
all
I have the same problem, All. I have to be VERY careful what I say on Facebook, since my fundamental/evangelical family members have me on their lists! I stay out of Facebook as much as possible, and only post "vanilla" stuff, if you know what I mean. (I took the Bible quiz myself and was QUITE relieved that I made "scholar" status!! LOL)
^ This.
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Yes, well, I've had to have a split personality there so to speak. Family asked, then friends, then people at work. So. Argh!
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
I am sorry, SG! Duck tape on my mouth but honestly, what does tarot cards and the occult have to do with the gods? That's New Age stuff. And she doesn't understand big words like Unverifiable? Or the definition? Give me a break! Gah!
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Well, SG, at least she apologized! She seems to be at least attempting to understand (albeit not very well), but maybe (if she's a good enough friend to invest some time in) you could take this opportunity to educate her?? Just think, there would be one less ill-informed Christian out there!
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I need a hug.
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*hugs SG*
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((((((((((SG))))))))))))) You are a lovely person and I'm proud of you.
It's just.... where do you start with that, eh?
It's just.... where do you start with that, eh?
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I'm just so... I don't know where to begin.
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SG you are so grounding to us all! Your heart speak volume's through your written emotions. Your so cool!
However me, on Facebook? I just don't care. Its like I said before....if I don't talk to friends and family in the towns grocery stores, what makes them think I'm going to talk to them on the Internets? SHEESH! I can not afford to lead two separate lives. (thats for John and his Gemini twins to fight out!) I'm a Capricorn, and It takes all my energy to walk my path, balance myself, and live in the present for a full 24hr period. I don't have the intellect, or time to get down & dirty with god, religion, or politics on BNet (the ridicule, and hatred swept me away), why would I bother on a site like Facebook?
To send the message home to some lads, and lassies....in 2006, I watched Wanda Sykes "Sick & Tired"..."I don't give a f ck." sketch had me rolling! Wanda had put out to the public what well self respecting crones have kept secret all these yrs!
However me, on Facebook? I just don't care. Its like I said before....if I don't talk to friends and family in the towns grocery stores, what makes them think I'm going to talk to them on the Internets? SHEESH! I can not afford to lead two separate lives. (thats for John and his Gemini twins to fight out!) I'm a Capricorn, and It takes all my energy to walk my path, balance myself, and live in the present for a full 24hr period. I don't have the intellect, or time to get down & dirty with god, religion, or politics on BNet (the ridicule, and hatred swept me away), why would I bother on a site like Facebook?
To send the message home to some lads, and lassies....in 2006, I watched Wanda Sykes "Sick & Tired"..."I don't give a f ck." sketch had me rolling! Wanda had put out to the public what well self respecting crones have kept secret all these yrs!
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Re: Am I making too big a deal about this?
Well, I can't give up facebook. I just connected with a bunch of old high school friends, which seriously freaks me out, BTW. So it was a day of highs and lows.
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